What organization will be the first to create AGI?
What organization will be the first to create AGI?
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Ṁ19k
2030
25%
Other
24%
OpenAI
18%
DeepMind
14%
DeepSeek
6%
Anthropic
6%
The US Government (DARPA or Similar Org)
3%
The Chinese Communist Party
3%
Elon's X.AI company
1.5%
A single individual not listed here

I'm defining AGI as an algorithm that can do any human white collar job. If things get complicated I might resolve if a single algorithm can perform better than humans on all the most common AI benchmarks in text, vision, and audio.

The common LLM benchmarks: https://huggingface.co/spaces/HuggingFaceH4/open_llm_leaderboard

The most common vision tasks:

https://scale.com/blog/best-10-public-datasets-object-detection

And the Audio Tasks / Datasets mentioned here:

https://huggingface.co/blog/audio-datasets

If a single algorithm can do better than a human on all of these tasks, I think it is almost certain that it can do most any desk job. And I would resolve this question with the creator of that algorithm.

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filled a Ṁ50 OpenAI NO at 23% order2mo

is "Stargate" an independent org for this

2mo

Missing DeepSeek

2mo

2mo

Huffing the copium

2mo

@MalachiteEagle I could add it if you think its markedly different than the ccp option?

2mo

@ChrisCanal I think so, yes. The CCP might want to have multiple competing companies in China, and nationalise them after they reach AGI

2mo

@ChrisCanal note that in this case I think the market crash is because of insider trading, people taking out short positions because they had advance knowledge of the Taiwan tariffs, and not because of deepseek. But deepseek is very much part of the narrative now because that's the explanation the media ran with. So, relevant for this question

4mo

Interesting update. The US government may be trying to fund an AGI Manhattan Project : https://x.com/deanwball/status/1858893954982232549

4mo

@ChrisCanal A government commission has made that as a recommendation*

4mo

@ElliotDavies yes, and as a result, the "US government may be trying to fund an AGI Manhattan Project".

Don't star me unless your correctly identifying a mistake. I'm intentionally giving you the assist here for learning purposes.

4mo

@ChrisCanal It's always good to write with as much precision as possible - I believe your statement could mislead others into thinking this came out of the Biden administration. This would be a much stronger claim than a policy recommendation by a commission.

4mo

@ElliotDavies I think you meant your're**

@ChrisCanal I definitely expected a higher caliber of conversation and epistemics when I originally joined manifold lmao

4mo

@ElliotDavies Relax I’m just kidding with you

reposted 6mo

What if AGI achieves a solution that uses different LLMs as required, e.g. the notdiamond.ai metamodel, which currently outperforms all LLMs in benchmarks? Would something like this be considered AGI?

1y

Nvidia

1y

@mariopasquato Idk, should they have been there own option?

9mo

Eh maybe

9mo

I've read this yesterday and put my bet on Other;)

1y

"better than humans" meaning better than the median human, better than the median human professional, or better than all humans?

Eg if AIs regularly write NYT bestsellers but don't crack the top 3 most sold books that year, does this count as AGI re: writing?

1y

@Linch I don’t think writing a best seller tells us enough about general capabilities. But if the same AI can do many things, like exceed human performance on the benchmarks I mentioned, then it is more indicative of AGI, than only being good at writing.

1y

@ChrisCanal if no one creates AGI by 2030 what will you do? Extend resolution time, resolve Other, or N/A?

1y

@parhizj obviously NA

1y

@parhizj It hadn't crossed my mind as possibility, but it feels like I should extend. I really really don't think this will come into play though. Why do you think it should be NA @ElliotDavies ?

1y

@ChrisCanal well resolving "other" would be a misresolution (it would clearly imply some other org had created agi.

You could extend, but you should probably do that sooner rather than now, because resolution dates are typically considered an extension of the resolution criteria. Modifying resolution dates modifies the relative odds

9mo

We most likely won't have AGI by 2030. https://manifold.markets/RemNi/will-we-get-agi-before-2030

9mo

I would bet my life that we have AGI before 2030. I would need some crazy evidence to think otherwise. But my trading history blows, so I wouldn’t trust me if I were u. Lmao

9mo

@MatthewLichti It's quite possible that market has already turned positive, but it's difficult to test because of finetuning

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