Hi just wondering if paying people to bet in your own market is against the rules?

https://manifold.markets/ZandaZhu/bounty-free-10-mana

@jessald why would it be against the rules?

@ZandaZhu well I guess you have to combine it with only allowing people to buy one side in order to transfer profit

I will bet on No and thus be trader 101 if someone

• resolves N/A one of their own existing open markets with at least 10 traders for a proper (judged by me) reason (bad or ambiguous resolution criteria)

• explains his reason for N/A in a short comment on their market

• links to the market in a response below with an @Primer at least 2 hours before this market closes

somebody sell some yes shares so i can be trader 101

@No_uh you're pretty much getting the full value of a yes resolution anyway selling at 99.9%

@No_uh also they will give an offramp for the NOs

three more traders, somebody has to sell some of their yea shares……

@ng Is it legal to take bribes? Profit transfers aren't but managrams by themselves are kinda whatever? Anyway what I'm trying to say is that new folks can still bet No.

@EvanDaniel it might be against the Manifold rules, but I doubt it would be enforced and I agree that that’s probably how it’s gonna play out

@ng OK well the little purple check by my name means I am supposed to enforce it so if someone wants to send me a managram they could help their odds a bunch by taking a glance at the rules and such along with said managram.

@EvanDaniel sorry, I might be a bit tired but I didn’t fully understand what you were trying to say there

@ng I'm a mod and should at least try hard to enforce the rules (which I haven't read all that recently, TBH)... so if someone wanted to get me to trade a thing they should tell me (convincingly!) whether it's ok.

I'm pretty sure this unranked market is fairly wild west as long as we're not doing profit transfers, but like I said details and so on matter.

@EvanDaniel ahh, thank you for explaining. I didn’t fully get it because I’m so tired from the fourth.

@ng Nah, some people just have to get paid off to buy 'NO' for a mana or two
If you look at the trade history I think you can be fairly sure this has already happened
I'm pretty sure bounties are allowed, so while I (as an early NO buyer) don't exactly like it, it seems perfectly legit

@ng I agree, this seems like hope it’s gonna end

Lost way too much going to file bankruptcy

Sold it all

https://manifold.markets/musuko384/i-will-resolve-this-question-to-the
check out this similar market!

https://manifold.markets/ZandaZhu/the-average-value-for-the-bids-of-t?r=WmFuZGFaaHU check out this market too !

The average value for the bids of this question >= 1000

46% chance. This market resolves yes if, when it closes, the sum of the bids of the holders divided by the total number of holders >= 1000 and will resolve no otherwise.

@HarshSidhu do you still want a 2k loan

@ZandaZhu please yes

@HarshSidhu i can loan you if you want

@HarshSidhu how long would it take you to pay back?

@ZandaZhu na it’s fine I just create a few more accounts and use my code and give the starting money to myself too you can make 2k from one account